fines against hsbc, expensive mistakes at citi corp, jpmorgan chase cries out for real reform and real arrests of senior executives. where is the justice and where is the justice department? joining me now, dennis kelleher, president and ceo of better markets. dennis, is it fair to say that by in large, wall street and senior executives continue to get off almost scot free? >> the objective evidence proves that to be true. the real question is when is the law going to be applied to wall street like it is applied to the rest of main street and the rest of america. it is interesting, at the press conference announcing the ubs settlement of $1.5 billion the head of the criminal division said crime on wall street will not be tolerated. while he was indicting a japanese subsidiary of a swiss bank. and i know that geographically challenged they may think they're getting closer to wall street but wall street's much closer than either of those places. i can't wait for them to find it. >> eliot: i suppose some people looked at this and said at least there is a guilty plea. the litany of major c